FRIED: The Burnout Podcast

FRIED: The Burnout Podcast

Cait Donovan, Top Burnout Expert for Corporate and Nonprofit Organizations


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What Employee Engagement Surveys Really Tell You a #straightfromcait episode

Employee engagement surveys give us a lot of data. But what does that data actually tell us? In this first Survey Says episode, I’m looking at two questions from the 2024 U.S. Office of Personnel Management Federal Employee Viewpoint Survey through the burnout and mismatch lens. When only 48% of employees respond positively to whether management involves them in decisions that affect their work, it’s tempting to conclude that employees need more autonomy. But another question in the same survey complicates that assumption. The bigger lesson? A survey result is a signal, not a diagnosis. In this episode, I explore why the same survey score can reflect very different employee experiences, why more autonomy and involvement aren't automatically better, and what questions we can ask to understand what's actually happening underneath the numbers. In this episode, I cover: Why employee engagement survey results are a starting point, not a diagnosis The difference between employee involvement and satisfaction with that involvement Why a low autonomy score doesn't automatically mean employees need more autonomy How different workplace conditions can produce the same survey result The mismatch between where decision-making authority lives and where knowledge about the work lives Why the right amount of autonomy depends on the person and the work Questions we can ask to uncover what's happening underneath an engagement survey score Why getting curious is more useful than jumping straight from data to solutions Questions I’d ask next If employees report low involvement in decisions that affect their work, I want more information before deciding what needs to change. Which decisions do employees actually want more involvement in? Which recent decisions have positively or negatively affected their ability to do their jobs? What decisions are being made without information from the people closest to the work? When employees give input, do they know what happens to it? What would employees happily never be consulted about again? Employee engagement surveys aren't the end of the exploration. They're the beginning of it. The question isn't simply, “How do we give people more autonomy?” It’s: Do people have the appropriate amount of influence over the decisions that affect their ability to do their work? About the Host Cait Donovan is a globally recognized keynote speaker, one of the world’s leading burnout experts, and host of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast, a top 1% podcast with more than 1 million downloads. With a background in biobehavioral health and Chinese medicine, Cait takes a systems-based approach to burnout, helping organizations, leaders, and individuals understand burnout not as a personal failure, but as a mismatch between people and the environments in which they work. Cait is the author of The Bouncebackability Factor and the forthcoming Mismatch: Why Good People Burn Out in Good Organizations. Her work has been featured in Forbes, NPR, The New York Post, and other major media outlets. Bring Cait to your organization: Learn more about Cait’s keynotes and workplace burnout programs at https://caitdonovan.com

About FRIED: The Burnout Podcast

The place to listen to real, raw stories of burnout and burnout recovery so that you can learn: Burnout is Real. You're not alone. This is doable. There are resources for you. Someone like you has been through this and has answers for you. Interviews go deep and discuss trauma, race, deep depression, thoughts of suicide and of course, the light that enters once the realization happens and the decision to make a change has been made. We're here with you. For all of it. Access more episodes, subscribe, and learn more.