FRIED: The Burnout Podcast

FRIED: The Burnout Podcast

Cait Donovan


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Latest Episode

Will Robins: How PGA Science Helps You Recover from Burnout

Sometimes the next step is simply asking for help. Sarah Vosen is here to guide you through it: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching Burnout hides best inside people who love their work so much they don’t notice it draining the life out of them. PGA coach and RGX founder Will Robins joins Cait to unpack how devotion to service can turn into slow-motion burnout, especially when you’re praised for being endlessly available. He shares how surviving the 2004 tsunami gave him purpose, but years later COVID thrust him into a different kind of survival mode, fielding nonstop crisis calls from golf pros worldwide. Passion became obligation, generosity became emotional labor, and saying yes became his default until resentment started to seep in. Together, he and Cait expose how burnout isn’t about workload—it’s about tension, expectations, and the belief that being needed equals being valuable. They map a way back through honest boundaries, aligned priorities, and Will’s Scoring Method as a metaphor for life: stop swinging for perfection and focus on consistent, pressure-free plays. You'll hear practical language for saying no without guilt, a reframing of stress as a physical reaction rather than a personal failing, and a challenge to stop optimizing your recovery like another achievement project. If you're the “reliable one” who keeps muscling through, this episode invites you to build a life where people need you less, and love you more because of it. Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Burnout and Purpose After Surviving the Tsunami 02:45 COVID Burnout and the Cost of Constant Service 08:04 Why High Performers Miss Burnout Signs 11:47 Burnout Culture in the Golf Industry and Beyond 17:31 Rebuilding Life with Faith, Health, and Family 21:02 Setting Boundaries Without Guilt 32:02 The Scoring Method for Life and Burnout 36:00 Mastering Emotional Regulation Connect with Will Robins: Will’s Website Follow Will on Instagram Connect with Will on LinkedIn Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait Initial Call with Sarah Sometimes the next step is simply asking for help. Sarah Vosen is here to guide you through it: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

About FRIED: The Burnout Podcast

The place to listen to real, raw stories of burnout and burnout recovery so that you can learn: Burnout is Real. You're not alone. This is doable. There are resources for you. Someone like you has been through this and has answers for you. Interviews go deep and discuss trauma, race, deep depression, thoughts of suicide and of course, the light that enters once the realization happens and the decision to make a change has been made. We're here with you. For all of it. Access more episodes, subscribe, and learn more.