
FRIED: The Burnout Podcast
Cait Donovan, Top Burnout Expert for Corporate and Nonprofit Organizations
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CEO Burnout: Why a Great Leader Was Burning Out in a Healthy Organization, a #straightfromcait episode
I worked with a CEO who was burning out, but here's what made the situation interesting: they were really good at their job. They had a supportive board. They had a supportive staff. The rest of the organization wasn't burning out. So what the hell was going on? When we started looking for the mismatch, one word kept coming up: urgency. This CEO was moving faster than everyone around them. They were answering emails before the person responsible for them had a chance to respond. They were going to meetings they didn't need to be in. They'd set a deadline for Friday, finish their part by Wednesday, and then get frustrated that everyone else wasn't moving at the same pace. The CEO thought they were helping. Their staff experienced it differently. In this #straightfromcait episode of FRIED: The Burnout Podcast, I'm breaking down how we identified this pace mismatch, what the CEO's urgency was communicating to the rest of the team, and what had to happen to change it. I also talk about why "slow down" can mean very different things depending on the mismatch you're actually trying to solve. This is also a little preview of the idea at the center of my upcoming book, Mismatch: Why Good People Burn Out in Good Organizations. Sometimes good people burn out in organizations that are mostly doing things right. The question isn't always, "What's broken here?" Sometimes the better question is: Where's the mismatch? Key Topics Covered A real example of a CEO burning out inside a healthy, supportive organization The behaviors that helped us identify the mismatch: answering other people's emails, going to meetings unnecessarily, and racing ahead of their own deadlines How one leader's internal sense of urgency created a pace mismatch with the rest of the organization Why doing things for your staff isn't necessarily helpful, especially when it starts communicating that you don't trust them The difference between the major slowdown that can be necessary during burnout recovery and dialing your pace down a couple of notches Why naming the mismatch made it much easier to figure out what needed to change What the CEO had to do to understand the fear underneath their urgency Why fixing a mismatch requires participation from both the person and the organization A first look at my upcoming book, Mismatch: Why Good People Burn Out in Good Organizations About Your Host Cait Donovan is a keynote speaker, globally recognized burnout expert, and host of FRIED: The Burnout Podcast, a top 1% show with over one million downloads. She's the author of The Bouncebackability Factor and is currently writing her second book, Mismatch: Why Good People Burn Out in Good Organizations, releasing October 2026. With more than 3,700 five-star keynote reviews and a 99% approval rating, Cait helps leaders and organizations fix burnout without blame, using science, humor, and a refusal to settle for wellness-seminar band-aids. Book Cait to Speak: https://www.caitdonovan.com/ Connect with Cait LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitdonovanspeaks Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caitdonovanspeaks
About FRIED: The Burnout Podcast
The place to listen to real, raw stories of burnout and burnout recovery so that you can learn: Burnout is Real. You're not alone. This is doable. There are resources for you. Someone like you has been through this and has answers for you. Interviews go deep and discuss trauma, race, deep depression, thoughts of suicide and of course, the light that enters once the realization happens and the decision to make a change has been made. We're here with you. For all of it. Access more episodes, subscribe, and learn more.





